by cmplx6 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:51 pm
So the Nathan Chin thread is old. But I guess the new question will be who will be the next new head coach at Mayville State University? This new guy they hired is young and will last two seasons tops. Nate Gill would have been a good hire, they could have made history hiring the first black head football coach at a college in ND. Lets look at the look at the last 7 hires.
The trouble at Mayville started with Stan Rettew, who was also the AD and very corrupt.
Kelly Jeffrey lasted 4 years with a record of 6-34(Not Renewed).
Jody Ford was there for 2 years with a record of 3-17(Resigned on own accord).
Nathan Chin lasted 2 years with a record of 2-18(Resigned on own accord).
Derek Schlieve was there 3 seasons and had a record of 17-16(Resigned on own accord).
John Haines was there for 3 years and had a record of 12-19 (Not Renewed).
Sean Thom was there for 2 years and had a record of 1-20 (Resigned).
Jeff Larson was there for 1 year and had a record of 2-8 (Resigned).
Jeffrey was a good coach and inherited a mess from Rettew. He was young and did not even have coordinator experience, so he learned alot on the go. I think his fault was in spending too much money on academic red-shirts. Jeffrey was also not invested in the Weight Room. I think if he would have been retained he would have had a winning season in 2006 and been there for 4 more years before moving on. He went on to be very successful in Canada. Good hire that wasn't given enough time.
Jody Ford came in with an iron first and tried to instill some discipline that the program lacked under Jeffrey. He was Jeffries Defensive Coordinator. I don't think he had the offensive support he needed coaching-wise. He was fighting an uphill battle with the administration as they were making cuts to football. He moved to be closer to his family in Missouri. Average hire.
Nathan Chin was Ford's inexperienced OC. He was the easy hire. He spent two years in over his head and left to be a position coach at another NAIA school. Chin was bad hire.
Derek Schlieve worked under Ford as a GA, and served as Chin's Defensive Coordinator. He was the first coach to build a weight room culture on the football team. Schlieve was the 3rd straight in house hire, and the first Alumni to be hired as the head coach. He played under Rettew and missed out on Jeffrey. He had success and would have stayed if the Administration would have given him a few concessions with the program, contracts to be discussed in December and not July, more benefits for the assistant coaches. He left to coach high school football in Texas. Schlieve was the best hire of the 7 coaches.
John Haines was the second straight alumni to be hired. He played under Rettew Coached a year under Jeffrey. He came in with the most impressive resume as the only coach with college head coaching experience. He was also Fords OC at CMU, where Ford was the HC. He was hired with days to get started on the season in the fall. He had one bad year and two 5-5 seasons. His problem was program image. Schlieve had a no swearing policy, and Haines had a mandatory swearing policy. He rubbed too many people the wrong was and was not the political type. Good hire, but I think the administration should have laid out clear goals and standards.
Sean Thom was a college GA for two years and a HS DC for 3 years all at programs that were not very good, and then became a college head football coach. He was vastly under-qualified and it showed in the first year as they went winless for the first time in 11 years. Later Jamestown was forced to forfeit a game. He got a win in year two and the team was not competitive in most games. He also ruined many ties with alumni in the process. This was the worst hire, maybe in college football history. He went back to coach high school football in the south. This hire might have set the program back further than Stan Rettew did.
Jeff Larson was a D2 Coordinator. He was the second hire that had zero connections to the program in a row, starting a new trend. I think once he came in he saw how truly behind the 8 ball he was. He left to be the DC at his D2 alma mater. I think he was an average hire because he wasn't going to stick around long enough to clean up Thom's mess.
Rocky Larson is the new hire. He is another young coach with little experience. I think he is a cross between Thom and Jeff Larson. This is another average hire. If he doesn't see the program support he has seen at other programs he has been a part of, I think he will leave for a lower position, like Chin did.
Which brings us to the next hire at Mayville State for football in 2021 or 2022.