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Better Conference Big East or ACC

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Better Conference

Postby BballFan1307 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:42 am

Who is it big east or ACC
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Re: Better Conference

Postby The Schwab » Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:54 am

big east- 33 wins vs. top 25
ACC- 17 wins vs. top 25
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Re: Better Conference

Postby BballFan1307 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:57 am

some reasons?
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Re: Better Conference

Postby baseball » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:02 pm

every week you play a ranked team...if not 2....in the big east. which kinda skews the 33-17 wins vs top 25. in the big east half the time both teams are ranked so its a given they will get a win vs a top 25 team.
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Re: Better Conference

Postby The Schwab » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:08 pm

so if you play 2 ranked teams in a week then your conference is better? DUH! Big East is better
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Re: Better Conference

Postby BballFan1307 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:17 pm

The Schwab wrote:so if you play 2 ranked teams in a week then your conference is better? DUH! Big East is better


That's the only reason people think big east is better , because more of their teams are ranked when, if you look at it. Miami , Florida State, Va Tech, are pretty much identical to Villanova Syracuse and Providence the 5 6 7 teams in the Big East. Then you throw in Boston College who's pretty good too. I just don't see how the Big East ist hat much better.
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Re: Better Conference

Postby baseball » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:20 pm

I will say UNC's win over ND is looking less significant each game ND plays.
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Re: Better Conference

Postby BballFan1307 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:53 pm

i will agree with you on that. I mean they have played a rediculous 6 game, well 5 game stretch, cincy was an easy win looking at them in the eyes and they choked, but still you gotta win at least 1 out of the 5 maybe even 2 to be considered an elite team. ND is average. And plus in the Big East there is what 12-14 teams i'm not sure , but with that many teams , yes your going to have about 8 teams with pretty decent records, and then everyone thinks that since they are in the big east they are good.
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Re: Better Conference

Postby The Schwab » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:59 pm

BballFan1307 wrote:i will agree with you on that. I mean they have played a rediculous 6 game, well 5 game stretch, cincy was an easy win looking at them in the eyes and they choked, but still you gotta win at least 1 out of the 5 maybe even 2 to be considered an elite team. ND is average. And plus in the Big East there is what 12-14 teams i'm not sure , but with that many teams , yes your going to have about 8 teams with pretty decent records, and then everyone thinks that since they are in the big east they are good.


ND played 8 ranked teams in a ten game stretch
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Re: Better Conference

Postby BballFan1307 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:11 pm

and they beat one of them.. .georgetown who is now unranked with 8 losses.. if your gonna be good you have to beat ranked teams you cant just play them and use the excuse , were good, we've just been playing really good teams.
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Re: Better Conference

Postby The Schwab » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:16 pm

BballFan1307 wrote:and they beat one of them.. .georgetown who is now unranked with 8 losses.. if your gonna be good you have to beat ranked teams you cant just play them and use the excuse , were good, we've just been playing really good teams.


If you honestly think that the ACC is better top to bottom then the big east...
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Re: Better Conference

Postby BballFan1307 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:29 pm

if the top 10 played the top 10 in each conference it'd be 5-5
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Re: Better Conference

Postby The Schwab » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:32 pm

BballFan1307 wrote:if the top 10 played the top 10 in each conference it'd be 5-5


like what do you mean? if the best teams played...then the second best teams...and so on?
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Re: Better Conference

Postby BballFan1307 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:47 pm

yes 1's played 1's and so on
it would be 5-5

Marquette vs. North Carolina- UNC wins
UCONN vs. Duke- very good game, UCONN wins
Louisville vs. Clemson- toss up
Pitt vs. Wake- toss up
Villanova vs. BC- toss up
Syracuse vs. Va Tech - toss up
Providence vs. Florida St. - i'd take Fl. State. but it could go either way.
Cincinatti vs. Miami- Miami wins
West Virginia vs. Maryland- Probably WV
Georgetown vs. NC State- Georgetown Wins

I'd say that there are 3 for sure wins for Big East and 2 for the ACC, but they ycould go either way
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Re: Better Conference

Postby baseball » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:47 pm

BballFan1307 wrote:yes 1's played 1's and so on
it would be 5-5

Marquette vs. North Carolina- UNC wins
UCONN vs. Duke- very good game, UCONN wins
Louisville vs. Clemson- toss up
Pitt vs. Wake- toss up
Villanova vs. BC- toss up
Syracuse vs. Va Tech - toss up
Providence vs. Florida St. - i'd take Fl. State. but it could go either way.
Cincinatti vs. Miami- Miami wins
West Virginia vs. Maryland- Probably WV
Georgetown vs. NC State- Georgetown Wins

I'd say that there are 3 for sure wins for Big East and 2 for the ACC, but they ycould go either way


Louisville would beat Clemson
Pitt is to big and experinced....they beat Wake
Syracuse beats VaTech
ill agree with the rest...that give the big east 6-3 with the Nova-BC still a toss up..depends which score first point guard scores more
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Re: Better Conference

Postby BballFan1307 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:37 pm

Well, Louisville got Pounded by the number one team and Clemson destroyed the number 3, so i put 2 and 2 together. and figured it'd be a toss up. Pitt doesn't impress me, yeah they got a couple bigs, but fields isn't that great. Teague would be able to exploit them. I really think that one's a toss up too.
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Re: Better Conference

Postby baseball18 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:55 pm

The top teams in both leagues are pretty even but it';s the middle pack teams that gives the Big East it's advantage. Ill take Syracuse, Cincy, WVA, GTown, and ND over BC, VT, FSU, Miami, and Maryland
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Re: Better Conference

Postby BballFan1307 » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:42 am

down goes marquette
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Re: Better Conference

Postby BballFan1307 » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:42 pm

As of today, ESPN analyst Joe Lunardi has 8 ACC teams in the tourney and only 7 Big East Teams..

ACC- 8/12 teams = 67%
Big East 7/16 teams=44%
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Re: Better Conference

Postby north_border_eagles2106 » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:26 pm

I don't really think it matters which conference is "better" than the other. The ACC isn't clearly better than the Big East and the Big East isn't clearly better than the ACC. When you went game by game you were just making predictions, that doesn't mean that's how it would go every time. Are these games played on neutral courts? You didn't really say either way what the environment would be.

These are the two best conferences in the country and they are too even to say either way if one is better. I think at the top they are too close to call. Uconn, Pitt, or Marquette could beat Duke, Unc, or Wake and the other way around. After that it's too much of a toss-up. The only reason I give the ACC more credit is because they have 12 teams to the Big East's 16. If the ACC added 4 more teams I'm sure they would have a couple more top 25 teams as well.
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Re: Better Conference

Postby woodchuck10 » Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:58 pm

oh i voted for ACC casue i thought it was football, my bad if it is basketball i would say BigEast
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Re: Better Conference

Postby baseball18 » Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:51 pm

next year it will be the big ten...
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Re: Better Conference

Postby baseball » Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:06 pm

baseball18 wrote:next year it will be the big ten...


cant argue that...it would be a disappointment if they dont finally break through and win the ACC/Big Ten challange. When you have 3 top 10 teams (Michigan St., Purdue, Michigan) thats pretty impressive.

Big 12 is going to be an interesting conference to follow. wont be the best in the country, but i liked the line that said Kansas might have a harder time winning the conference then the National Title. I wont be suprised if the Feb 8 meeting between Kansas and Texas is a 1-2 game.
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