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Pro Bowl snubs

Postby sportsguy2 » Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:53 pm

Who are some players that were snubbed out of the pro bowl? One player i can't believe didn't make it is Fred Taylor who has yet to make one.
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby NDSportsFan » Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:02 pm

Yeah, Taylor deserved it, so did Mario Williams.
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby baseball » Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:47 pm

Taylor only come on as of the last 4 games....over the first 11 weeks he had 604 yds, and a total of 1 touchdown and never had more then 90 yards in a game. i dont believe a person deserves a pro bowl selection after 4 good games after doing nothing for the first 10.....
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby Ming01 » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:09 pm

baseball wrote:Taylor only come on as of the last 4 games....over the first 11 weeks he had 604 yds, and a total of 1 touchdown and never had more then 90 yards in a game. i dont believe a person deserves a pro bowl selection after 4 good games after doing nothing for the first 10.....


Taylor deserved to make it, you would think this was 1997 with the way Taylor is playing. the Jags are in the playoffs as of right now. Willie Parker also got 104 more carries than Taylor but still only had 226 more yards. Addai has more carries and still less yards than Taylor. Taylor still had Maurice Jones-Drew on his team and Parker and Addai are by themselves. Taylor's totals weren't that bad his first 10 games being that Jones-Drew was in front of him. Why does it matter that he didn't produce til his last 4/5 games? He's still 6th in the league in rushing. His last 4 games he had 487 yards and 71 carries. That's 6.8 per carry and I'll say it again, he still had Maurice Jones-Drew by his side. What about Addai? He's had 56, 72, 44, 67, 32, and 44 rushing yards his last 6 games... Taylor got snubbed, he should be in over Addai
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby baseball » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:40 pm

Addai has 11 TD's...Taylor as 4. i will agree that Parker doesnt belong...the only thing he has going for him is that he is the leagues leading rusher. i would take McGahee over Taylor for the pro bowl, more yards and more TD's
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby Number7 » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:42 pm

A bigger snub than taylor alone was the ENTIRE jaguars team. No way the 3-seed from the AFC shouldnt have a rep or two. I also would have loved to see Derek Anderson go.
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby baseball » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:10 pm

i liked the touch of putting Taylor on the roster...
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby sportsguy2 » Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:12 pm

not to mention Taylor has 2 of the 3 longest runs in the league this season...simply put he got hosed
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby BballFan1307 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:51 am

Fred Taylor-
week 1- 6 rushes, 16 yards, 0 td
week 2- 16 rushes, 56 yards,0 td
week 3- 17 rushes, 84 yards, 0 td
week 4- bye
week 5- 16 rushes, 51 yards, 0 td
week 6- 6 rushes, 90 yards, 0 td
week 7- 11 rushes 55 yards, 0 td
week 8- 24 rushes, 68 yards, 0td
week 9- 13 rushes, 54 yards, 0td
week 10- 16 rushes, 45 yards, 1td
week 11- 20 rushes, 85 yards, 0 td
week 12- 14 rushes, 104 yards 0 td
week 13- 14 rushes, 104 yards, 1 td
week 14- 18 rushes, 132 yards 1 td
week 15- 25 rushes, 147 yards, 1 td


the guy only has 4 touchdowns, and has only had 4 games over 100 yards. Rushing isnt even the only part of being a good running back! he only has 9 catches for 58 yards and 0 TD"S. Sure he stepped it up the last 4 games, and yeah he couldve been on the pro bowl roster, but i dont think he's as big of a "snub" as everyone is saying.
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby baseball » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:42 am

BballFan1307 wrote:Fred Taylor-
week 1- 6 rushes, 16 yards, 0 td
week 2- 16 rushes, 56 yards,0 td
week 3- 17 rushes, 84 yards, 0 td
week 4- bye
week 5- 16 rushes, 51 yards, 0 td
week 6- 6 rushes, 90 yards, 0 td
week 7- 11 rushes 55 yards, 0 td
week 8- 24 rushes, 68 yards, 0td
week 9- 13 rushes, 54 yards, 0td
week 10- 16 rushes, 45 yards, 1td
week 11- 20 rushes, 85 yards, 0 td
week 12- 14 rushes, 104 yards 0 td
week 13- 14 rushes, 104 yards, 1 td
week 14- 18 rushes, 132 yards 1 td
week 15- 25 rushes, 147 yards, 1 td


the guy only has 4 touchdowns, and has only had 4 games over 100 yards. Rushing isnt even the only part of being a good running back! he only has 9 catches for 58 yards and 0 TD"S. Sure he stepped it up the last 4 games, and yeah he couldve been on the pro bowl roster, but i dont think he's as big of a "snub" as everyone is saying.


exactly....take away his last 4 games and he isnt even having an average year, first 10 games he averaged 60 yards and only 1 total touchdown. when they talk about snubs they talk about how they had pro bowl SEASONS not a pro bowl MONTH
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby Roughrider » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:46 am

Number7 wrote:A bigger snub than taylor alone was the ENTIRE jaguars team. No way the 3-seed from the AFC shouldnt have a rep or two. I also would have loved to see Derek Anderson go.


yeah i agree. I really think that Derek Anderson definately deserved a pro bowl spot over Roethlisberger. Big Ben hasnt done anything this year and look at Derek Anderson, he has resurected the Brown Franchise and are looking at a playoff spot for the first time in 6 years. Also Mario Williams should have gotten a spot as well, he as 13 1/2 sacks this season and is helping Houston win.
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby baseball » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:03 am

Roughrider wrote:
Number7 wrote:A bigger snub than taylor alone was the ENTIRE jaguars team. No way the 3-seed from the AFC shouldnt have a rep or two. I also would have loved to see Derek Anderson go.


yeah i agree. I really think that Derek Anderson definately deserved a pro bowl spot over Roethlisberger. Big Ben hasnt done anything this year and look at Derek Anderson, he has resurected the Brown Franchise and are looking at a playoff spot for the first time in 6 years. Also Mario Williams should have gotten a spot as well, he as 13 1/2 sacks this season and is helping Houston win.


Yards
Anderson - 3384
Roethlisberger - 2897

TD's
Anderson - 26
Roesthlisberger - 29

INT
Anderson - 14
Roethlisberger - 11

Pass Attempts
Anderson - 459
Roethlisberger - 385

Completion %
Anderson - 56.2
Roethlisberger - 64.7

Yards per attempt
Anderson - 7.37
Roethlisberger - 7.53


i guess my point is that if Roethlisberger hasnt done anything this year then Anderson has done even less. Roethlisberger has bigger numbers and is far more efficient. Roethlisberger has only 1 game without a TD, Anderson has 3 (2 were even OT).....Roethlisberger over Anderson
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby sportsguy2 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:27 pm

baseball wrote:
BballFan1307 wrote:Fred Taylor-
week 1- 6 rushes, 16 yards, 0 td
week 2- 16 rushes, 56 yards,0 td
week 3- 17 rushes, 84 yards, 0 td
week 4- bye
week 5- 16 rushes, 51 yards, 0 td
week 6- 6 rushes, 90 yards, 0 td
week 7- 11 rushes 55 yards, 0 td
week 8- 24 rushes, 68 yards, 0td
week 9- 13 rushes, 54 yards, 0td
week 10- 16 rushes, 45 yards, 1td
week 11- 20 rushes, 85 yards, 0 td
week 12- 14 rushes, 104 yards 0 td
week 13- 14 rushes, 104 yards, 1 td
week 14- 18 rushes, 132 yards 1 td
week 15- 25 rushes, 147 yards, 1 td


the guy only has 4 touchdowns, and has only had 4 games over 100 yards. Rushing isnt even the only part of being a good running back! he only has 9 catches for 58 yards and 0 TD"S. Sure he stepped it up the last 4 games, and yeah he couldve been on the pro bowl roster, but i dont think he's as big of a "snub" as everyone is saying.


exactly....take away his last 4 games and he isnt even having an average year, first 10 games he averaged 60 yards and only 1 total touchdown. when they talk about snubs they talk about how they had pro bowl SEASONS not a pro bowl MONTH


yeah but that month is part of a season isn't it?? maybe i could be wrong...say what you want he's still 6th in the NFL in rushing while splitting carries with a 5.1 average on a team that every defense knows is going to pound the rock
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby Ming01 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:37 pm

BballFan1307 wrote:Fred Taylor-
week 1- 6 rushes, 16 yards, 0 td
week 2- 16 rushes, 56 yards,0 td
week 3- 17 rushes, 84 yards, 0 td
week 4- bye
week 5- 16 rushes, 51 yards, 0 td
week 6- 6 rushes, 90 yards, 0 td
week 7- 11 rushes 55 yards, 0 td
week 8- 24 rushes, 68 yards, 0td
week 9- 13 rushes, 54 yards, 0td
week 10- 16 rushes, 45 yards, 1td
week 11- 20 rushes, 85 yards, 0 td
week 12- 14 rushes, 104 yards 0 td
week 13- 14 rushes, 104 yards, 1 td
week 14- 18 rushes, 132 yards 1 td
week 15- 25 rushes, 147 yards, 1 td


the guy only has 4 touchdowns, and has only had 4 games over 100 yards. Rushing isnt even the only part of being a good running back! he only has 9 catches for 58 yards and 0 TD"S. Sure he stepped it up the last 4 games, and yeah he couldve been on the pro bowl roster, but i dont think he's as big of a "snub" as everyone is saying.


Ever heard of Maurice Jones-Drew??? Addai and Parker have no one to share the load with. Also, go look at my comment about Taylor above, I think thats a legit and valid argument. Also, look at Addai's stats the last 6 games
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby BballFan1307 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:16 pm

Ming01 wrote:
BballFan1307 wrote:Fred Taylor-
week 1- 6 rushes, 16 yards, 0 td
week 2- 16 rushes, 56 yards,0 td
week 3- 17 rushes, 84 yards, 0 td
week 4- bye
week 5- 16 rushes, 51 yards, 0 td
week 6- 6 rushes, 90 yards, 0 td
week 7- 11 rushes 55 yards, 0 td
week 8- 24 rushes, 68 yards, 0td
week 9- 13 rushes, 54 yards, 0td
week 10- 16 rushes, 45 yards, 1td
week 11- 20 rushes, 85 yards, 0 td
week 12- 14 rushes, 104 yards 0 td
week 13- 14 rushes, 104 yards, 1 td
week 14- 18 rushes, 132 yards 1 td
week 15- 25 rushes, 147 yards, 1 td


the guy only has 4 touchdowns, and has only had 4 games over 100 yards. Rushing isnt even the only part of being a good running back! he only has 9 catches for 58 yards and 0 TD"S. Sure he stepped it up the last 4 games, and yeah he couldve been on the pro bowl roster, but i dont think he's as big of a "snub" as everyone is saying.


Ever heard of Maurice Jones-Drew??? Addai and Parker have no one to share the load with. Also, go look at my comment about Taylor above, I think thats a legit and valid argument. Also, look at Addai's stats the last 6 games




Joseph Addai- 11 touchdowns , Fred Taylor - 4 td's
Addai - 39 catches , 351 yards and 3 td's , Fred Taylor 9 catches 58 yards and 0 td's...
just a stat to try prove addai's case over taylor, he's been more all around RB
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby Ming01 » Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:20 am

BballFan1307 wrote:
Ming01 wrote:
BballFan1307 wrote:Fred Taylor-
week 1- 6 rushes, 16 yards, 0 td
week 2- 16 rushes, 56 yards,0 td
week 3- 17 rushes, 84 yards, 0 td
week 4- bye
week 5- 16 rushes, 51 yards, 0 td
week 6- 6 rushes, 90 yards, 0 td
week 7- 11 rushes 55 yards, 0 td
week 8- 24 rushes, 68 yards, 0td
week 9- 13 rushes, 54 yards, 0td
week 10- 16 rushes, 45 yards, 1td
week 11- 20 rushes, 85 yards, 0 td
week 12- 14 rushes, 104 yards 0 td
week 13- 14 rushes, 104 yards, 1 td
week 14- 18 rushes, 132 yards 1 td
week 15- 25 rushes, 147 yards, 1 td


the guy only has 4 touchdowns, and has only had 4 games over 100 yards. Rushing isnt even the only part of being a good running back! he only has 9 catches for 58 yards and 0 TD"S. Sure he stepped it up the last 4 games, and yeah he couldve been on the pro bowl roster, but i dont think he's as big of a "snub" as everyone is saying.


Ever heard of Maurice Jones-Drew??? Addai and Parker have no one to share the load with. Also, go look at my comment about Taylor above, I think thats a legit and valid argument. Also, look at Addai's stats the last 6 games




Joseph Addai- 11 touchdowns , Fred Taylor - 4 td's
Addai - 39 catches , 351 yards and 3 td's , Fred Taylor 9 catches 58 yards and 0 td's...
just a stat to try prove addai's case over taylor, he's been more all around RB


You forgot rushing yards- last 6 games:
Taylor: 617 yards, 107 carries, 5.7 avg.
Addai: 315 yards, 102 carries, 3.0 avg.

Age:
Taylor: 31
Addai: 24

Also, Taylor is 6th in the league in rushing, still has 35 less carries, and still has more yards rushing than Addai, and I would like to mention Maurice Jone-Drew once again. You can talk about the first 6 games or so all you want, but the last 6 stand out more than the first six...
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby BballFan1307 » Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:12 am

i could pull up how they compare for the first half of the year, and addai will have better numbers. thing is, not one of them deserved it MORE than the other. had taylor gotten on the pro bowl roster, we'd be on here saying that Addai got snubbed just because ESPN thinks so.
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby baseball » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:29 am

what does age have to do with being snubbed? just because they put up similar stats Taylor should get it becuase hes older?? first 6 games, last 6 games....what about them games in the middle. ill repeat it, its based on a season not on a month. Addai gets in the endzone plain and simple. 11 TD's compared to Taylor's 4 says it all
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby baseball18 » Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:31 pm

BballFan1307 wrote:i could pull up how they compare for the first half of the year, and addai will have better numbers. thing is, not one of them deserved it MORE than the other. had taylor gotten on the pro bowl roster, we'd be on here saying that Addai got snubbed just because ESPN thinks so.


No, I think Taylor has a better case than Addai. If Taylor was in over Addai than I wouldn't be complaining and neither would ming01 or some other people. ESPN is a joke anyways.
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby baseball18 » Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:38 pm

baseball wrote:what does age have to do with being snubbed? just because they put up similar stats Taylor should get it becuase hes older?? first 6 games, last 6 games....what about them games in the middle. ill repeat it, its based on a season not on a month. Addai gets in the endzone plain and simple. 11 TD's compared to Taylor's 4 says it all


I think Ming01 was trying to say that, Taylor is older and still put up better numbers than 24 year old Addai. I think Taylor deserves it more, 10,000 yards in his career and no Pro Bowl? I think he'll never make a Pro Bowl and will be the first HOF to never make a Pro Bowl. Taylor's been there all year and is helping get this Jags team into the playoffs.
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby baseball » Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:45 pm

baseball18 wrote:
baseball wrote:what does age have to do with being snubbed? just because they put up similar stats Taylor should get it becuase hes older?? first 6 games, last 6 games....what about them games in the middle. ill repeat it, its based on a season not on a month. Addai gets in the endzone plain and simple. 11 TD's compared to Taylor's 4 says it all


I think Ming01 was trying to say that, Taylor is older and still put up better numbers than 24 year old Addai. I think Taylor deserves it more, 10,000 yards in his career and no Pro Bowl? I think he'll never make a Pro Bowl and will be the first HOF to never make a Pro Bowl. Taylor's been there all year and is helping get this Jags team into the playoffs.


which is why i was implying that age as nothing to do with it, if thats the case vinny testeverde should be in the game...

plus..what was the deal of him voting for himself 10 times?? that gets alot of people's respect i suppose...
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby sportsguy2 » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:07 pm

baseball wrote:
baseball18 wrote:
baseball wrote:what does age have to do with being snubbed? just because they put up similar stats Taylor should get it becuase hes older?? first 6 games, last 6 games....what about them games in the middle. ill repeat it, its based on a season not on a month. Addai gets in the endzone plain and simple. 11 TD's compared to Taylor's 4 says it all


I think Ming01 was trying to say that, Taylor is older and still put up better numbers than 24 year old Addai. I think Taylor deserves it more, 10,000 yards in his career and no Pro Bowl? I think he'll never make a Pro Bowl and will be the first HOF to never make a Pro Bowl. Taylor's been there all year and is helping get this Jags team into the playoffs.


which is why i was implying that age as nothing to do with it, if thats the case vinny testeverde should be in the game...

plus..what was the deal of him voting for himself 10 times?? that gets alot of people's respect i suppose...


how does vinny's numbers stack up against Hasselbeck's...they must be pretty close....fred and addai have similar numbers so give it to the vet who is a future HOF'er and probably doesn't have as many years left to show what he's got
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby Ming01 » Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:28 pm

baseball wrote:
baseball18 wrote:
baseball wrote:what does age have to do with being snubbed? just because they put up similar stats Taylor should get it becuase hes older?? first 6 games, last 6 games....what about them games in the middle. ill repeat it, its based on a season not on a month. Addai gets in the endzone plain and simple. 11 TD's compared to Taylor's 4 says it all


I think Ming01 was trying to say that, Taylor is older and still put up better numbers than 24 year old Addai. I think Taylor deserves it more, 10,000 yards in his career and no Pro Bowl? I think he'll never make a Pro Bowl and will be the first HOF to never make a Pro Bowl. Taylor's been there all year and is helping get this Jags team into the playoffs.


which is why i was implying that age as nothing to do with it, if thats the case vinny testeverde should be in the game...

plus..what was the deal of him voting for himself 10 times?? that gets alot of people's respect i suppose...


Testaverde is an irrelevant example. You don't really understand what we're saying, Addai is 24 and Taylor is 31, but the OLDER Taylor still has better and more productive numbers than the YOUNG Addai. Comprende?
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby baseball » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:26 pm

but you still havent answered my question...what does age have to do with anything??

rushing stats....
Addai - 251 attempts, 1019 yards, 11 TD
Taylor - 216 attemts, 1091 yards, 4 TD

receiving stats....
Addai - 39 rec, 351 yards, 3 TD
Taylor - 9 rec, 58 yards, 0 TD

Taylor also has 2 fumbles compared to Addai's 0

after looking at them stats how can you tell me Taylor has better stats? sure he has more yards and YPC, but Addai leads everything else
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Re: Pro Bowl snubs

Postby BballFan1307 » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:49 pm

baseball wrote:but you still havent answered my question...what does age have to do with anything??

rushing stats....
Addai - 251 attempts, 1019 yards, 11 TD
Taylor - 216 attemts, 1091 yards, 4 TD

receiving stats....
Addai - 39 rec, 351 yards, 3 TD
Taylor - 9 rec, 58 yards, 0 TD

Taylor also has 2 fumbles compared to Addai's 0

after looking at them stats how can you tell me Taylor has better stats? sure he has more yards and YPC, but Addai leads everything else



looks like it doesnt even matter any more, Willie Parker goes down with a broken leg against the Rams tonight. Looks like Taylor squeaks in after all.
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