Bison-Vikes #1 wrote:1. Had a problem with AP playing for the exact reason of what happened. Personally was hoping the Vikes would shop AP in the off season for a "Herschel Walker" type of trade. He's in his 6th? year but would still be able to get some great players in return. Sometimes you have to let a great one go to build your team for the future.
winner-within wrote:The Vikes are about 5-7 years away from even winning the NFC North...
Flip wrote:winner-within wrote:The Vikes are about 5-7 years away from even winning the NFC North...
You're delusional. Every team in the NFL is 2 good off seasons away from winning their division.
This is the same team you thought would go 11-5.
defensewinsgames wrote:Couldn't disagree more. No division except maybe the NFC West has ever been open enough for a team to win in 2 offseasons. The only one who is delusional around here is you. Winner is completely right on this. The Vikings, Rams, Colts, and Jaguars are a long way from winning their divisions.
Flip wrote:Bison-Vikes #1 wrote:1. Had a problem with AP playing for the exact reason of what happened. Personally was hoping the Vikes would shop AP in the off season for a "Herschel Walker" type of trade. He's in his 6th? year but would still be able to get some great players in return. Sometimes you have to let a great one go to build your team for the future.
So the Vikes should sit Percy and JA this week?
There is no way a team is going to shop a player they just signed to a $100million contract. I'm not saying it is wrong to trade him, there is just zero chance of it happening.
Flip wrote:Seven years is such a long time in the NFL. You could go from the worst team in the NFL to SB champs back to the worst team in seven years.
The 1998 rams were 4-12 and won the SB the next year.
The 1998 Ravens were 6-10 and won the SB two years later.
The Lions won 2 games 2 years ago and they're in the playoffs this year.
The 2000 Pats were 5-11 and won the SB the next year.
Again, to possibly think you can't turn your franchise around in two years is delusional.
winner-within wrote:Flip wrote:Seven years is such a long time in the NFL. You could go from the worst team in the NFL to SB champs back to the worst team in seven years.
The 1998 rams were 4-12 and won the SB the next year.
The 1998 Ravens were 6-10 and won the SB two years later.
The Lions won 2 games 2 years ago and they're in the playoffs this year.
The 2000 Pats were 5-11 and won the SB the next year.
Again, to possibly think you can't turn your franchise around in two years is delusional.
The Vikes made the NFC Championship twice in the last 14 years
Run4Fun2009 wrote:IMO the Vikings are going through a rebuilding phase right now...they 'could' compete for a division title/playoff spots within the next 2-3 years with the right personnal, draft picks, etc.
winner-within wrote:The Vikes are about 5-7 years away from even winning the NFC North...
winner-within wrote: The Vikes made the NFC Championship twice in the last 14 years...7 plus 7 is 14....The Division Champions each season means nothing in the NFL....Nothing!
Run4Fun2009 wrote:winner-within wrote:Flip wrote:Seven years is such a long time in the NFL. You could go from the worst team in the NFL to SB champs back to the worst team in seven years.
The 1998 rams were 4-12 and won the SB the next year.
The 1998 Ravens were 6-10 and won the SB two years later.
The Lions won 2 games 2 years ago and they're in the playoffs this year.
The 2000 Pats were 5-11 and won the SB the next year.
Again, to possibly think you can't turn your franchise around in two years is delusional.
The Vikes made the NFC Championship twice in the last 14 years
From 1997-98 season to 2011-12 season (14 seasons) the Vikings have made it to the NFC Championship Game 3 times (1998: loss to Atlanta 30-27 OT; 2000: loss to NY Giants 41-0; 2010: loss to New Orleans 31-28 OT).
IMO the Vikings are going through a rebuilding phase right now...they 'could' compete for a division title/playoff spots within the next 2-3 years with the right personnal, draft picks, etc.
ndlionsfan wrote:winner-within wrote:The Vikes are about 5-7 years away from even winning the NFC North...winner-within wrote: The Vikes made the NFC Championship twice in the last 14 years...7 plus 7 is 14....The Division Champions each season means nothing in the NFL....Nothing!
You started this conversation off by stating they were that far away from winning the division, now that a few people have proved that it is done quite a bit in only a year or two you go changing your argument to making the NFC championship.....typical
ndlionsfan wrote:
If teams draft right, sign a couple key players, have the right coach in place, and stay injury free things can turn around quickly in the NFL
classB4ever wrote:ndlionsfan wrote:
If teams draft right, sign a couple key players, have the right coach in place, and stay injury free things can turn around quickly in the NFL
I think the above is the key statement. Also, the most important question is what is the ultimate goal? Would guess the superbowl, correct? With that said, the teams with the quickest turn around and capable of sustaining successful seasons come from ones with a franchise quarterback. So, can Webb or Ponder be that QB? Or was Luck the one they let slip through their fingers?
ndlionsfan wrote:classB4ever wrote:ndlionsfan wrote:
If teams draft right, sign a couple key players, have the right coach in place, and stay injury free things can turn around quickly in the NFL
I think the above is the key statement. Also, the most important question is what is the ultimate goal? Would guess the superbowl, correct? With that said, the teams with the quickest turn around and capable of sustaining successful seasons come from ones with a franchise quarterback. So, can Webb or Ponder be that QB? Or was Luck the one they let slip through their fingers?
You're exactly right. Its seems like in todays league you need to have the stud QB to be successful. But some other teams are doing it without that piece....Texans and 49ers come to mind. In my opinion, Ponder will lead the Vikes nowhere but I would like to see Webb get a shot with a full offseason and season as the starter. Use their picks and free agent signings on other pieces....OL, WR, defense, and RB now that AP is questionable. I also believe that RGIII will be a great QB in the league similar to Newton, but since he is a lot like Webb I say their other holes are much more important to get filled.
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