2015-16 football plan

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Re: 2015-16 football plan

Postby EHS1998 » Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:21 pm

Run4Fun2009 wrote:
EHS1998 wrote:
Run4Fun2009 wrote:http://www.ndhsaa.com/files/2013_14_Sports_Activities/Sports/football/FB_15_16_Plan_with_F_and_R.pdf


Yep, saw this. When will we know how the regions break down?


Regions are listed to the right I thought


You are right, but I swear they weren't listed before. Thanks.
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Re: 2015-16 football plan

Postby bulldog_power » Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:31 pm

There are a couple gauntlet regions as then a couple cupcake regions. Will be interesting to see what they do for playoffs. Will there be fewer playoff tea even though there are more teams in 9man this year
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Re: 2015-16 football plan

Postby Flip » Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:36 pm

bulldog_power wrote:There are a couple gauntlet regions as then a couple cupcake regions. Will be interesting to see what they do for playoffs. Will there be fewer playoff tea even though there are more teams in 9man this year

There are less teams this year.

My guess is they go back to 24 teams make the playoffs. You can't go top 3 make playoffs and have 18 or top 2 and 12.

Region 3 with Linton, Shiloh, and Napoleon.

IIRC Napoleon never had Linton in their region when they won 7(?) region titles in a row.
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Re: 2015-16 football plan

Postby ndlionsfan » Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:25 am

I would like to see them go top 3 and have 18 team playoff, with the 6 region champs getting a first round bye. Puts more emphasis on winning your region and I don't like to see more than 50% of the teams making playoffs. My question is how are they going to determine home field if say two #1 seeds face off? Before they went by even year/even region gets home field, odd/odd, but there was an imbalance due to having three regions in each half and that is part of the reason they went to 4 regions in the last plan.
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Re: 2015-16 football plan

Postby Flip » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:07 am

ndlionsfan wrote:I would like to see them go top 3 and have 18 team playoff, with the 6 region champs getting a first round bye. Puts more emphasis on winning your region and I don't like to see more than 50% of the teams making playoffs. My question is how are they going to determine home field if say two #1 seeds face off? Before they went by even year/even region gets home field, odd/odd, but there was an imbalance due to having three regions in each half and that is part of the reason they went to 4 regions in the last plan.

This doesn't work. So the region champs have a bye and the 2/3 seeds play each other in round one. Then you have 6 teams advancing to play the one seeds what happens after that round when you only have 6 teams left?
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Re: 2015-16 football plan

Postby ndlionsfan » Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:16 am

Yea, you're right. That doesn't work.
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Re: 2015-16 football plan

Postby bulldog_power » Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:03 pm

There doesn't seem to be a good way to do it.it seems like the only way to make it work would be to have some first round buys or to have playin games like AAA did back in the day. It will probably be on even years the even region winners get a buy and vise versa. Six regions just don't work well for playoffs. It will be interesting to find out what the plan is
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Re: 2015-16 football plan

Postby Flip » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:00 pm

bulldog_power wrote:There doesn't seem to be a good way to do it.it seems like the only way to make it work would be to have some first round buys or to have playin games like AAA did back in the day. It will probably be on even years the even region winners get a buy and vise versa. Six regions just don't work well for playoffs. It will be interesting to find out what the plan is

I made a thread about this 4 years ago about how the old system was unfair to regions 1,3, 4 and 6.

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Re: 2015-16 football plan

Postby woodchuck10 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:51 am

I know this wouldn't happen but I would like to see a 16 team playoff with this format. Top 2 in each region get into the playoffs to give us 12. Then have 4 wildcard teams based on some kind of computer formula and a committee. That would give us a 16 team playoff. Have the teams seeded, I know that would make for a lot of travel in the post season.

Also can anyone tell me where Wing is playing this year? I cant seem to find them. Didn't Washburn and Wilton drop them. I also think that North Star should be in Region 4.
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Re: 2015-16 football plan

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:20 am

Potential Changes from 2014 to 2015 from Preliminary Re-Alignment

Bismarck Legacy JOINS AAA West

Hillsboro-CV MOVES from A to AA East
Valley City MOVES from AA East to AA West

Bishop Ryan DROPS from AA West to A-3
Oak Grove MOVES from 9-Man to A-1
Westhope-Newburg-Glenburn MOVES from 9-Man to A-3
Rugby SHIFTS from A-3 to A-2

May-Port-CG DROPS from A to 9-Man
Midway-Minto DROPS from A to 9-Man
North Border DROPS from A to 9-Man
Central McLean DROPS from A to 9-Man
Linton-HMB DROPS from A to 9-Man
Kidder County DROPS from A to 9-Man
North Prairie DROPS from A to 9-Man
New Salem-Glen Ullin DROPS from A to 9-Man
Williams County DISSOLVES to avoid AA football (both Tioga & Ray in 9-Man)

Four Winds MOVES to JV only
Nedrose WILL PLAY JV only
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Re: 2015-16 football plan

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:36 am

Re-Listing of the Proposal

AAA East (8)
West Fargo
Fargo Davies
GF Red River
Fargo South
GF Central
Fargo North
WF Sheyenne
Devils Lake

AAA West (8)
Minot
Century
Bismarck
Mandan
Williston
Dickinson
Legacy
Jamestown

AA East (8)
Wahpeton
Grafton
Fargo Shanley
Central Cass
Lisbon
Maple Valley-Enderlin
Kindred
Hillsboro-Central Valley

AA West (8)
Watford City
Turtle Mountain
St. Mary's
Valley City
Beulah
Stanley-Powers Lake
Central Dakota (GCC/BCN/PBK)
Dickinson Trinity

A - Region 1 (6)
Ellendale-Edgeley-Kulm
Carrington
Oak Grove
Northern Cass - OPT UP
Oakes - OPT UP
Milnor-North Sargent - OPT UP

A - Region 2 (6)
Harvey-Wells County
Park River-FL
Rugby
Larimore
Lakota/Edmore/Dakota Prairie
Langdon - OPT UP

A - Region 3 (6)
Lewis & Clark/Our Redeemer's
Des Lacs-Burlington
Bottineau
Velva/Sawyer
Bishop Ryan
Westhope-Newburg-Glenburn - OPT UP

A - Region 4 (6)
Standing Rock
Heart River
Hazen
Garrison-Max
Southern McLean
Killdeer - OPT UP

9-Man - Region 1 (8)
May-Port-CG
LaMoure-LM
Richland
Wyndmere-Lidgerwood
Hatton-Northwood
Finley-Sharon-Hope-Page
Sargent Central
Hankinson

9-Man - Region 2 (7)
Midway-Minto
North Border
Thompson
Drayton/Valley-Edinburg
Cavalier
New Rockford-Sheyenne
North Star

9-Man - Region 3 (8)
Central McLean
Linton-HMB
Kidder County
Shiloh Christian
Napoleon-Gackle-Streeter
South Border
Center-Stanton
Strasburg/Zeeland

9-Man - Region 4 (7)
North Prairie
Surrey
Dunseith
TGU
Benson County
St. John
Drake-Anamoose

9-Man - Region 5 (7)
Richardton-Taylor
New Salem-Glen Ullin
Bowman County
Hettinger-Scranton
Grant County-Flasher
Beach
Mott-Regent

9-Man - Region 6 (8)
Kenmare-Bowbells
Tioga
New Town
Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood
Trenton/Trinity Christian
Divide County
Parshall-White Shield
Ray
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Re: 2015-16 football plan

Postby Indy5 » Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:08 am

As a Bishop Ryan alum, I will say I'm really sad to see them drop to A. I know it makes sense for them since once this year's seniors graduate they will probably see a talent drop and the school is shrinking, but to me BR is just a AA program. That's always been something to appreciate about them is how the nut up and compete with those big schools. Also hate to see the natural rivalries with Trinity and St. Mary's go away
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Re: 2015-16 football plan

Postby Flip » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:51 am

Does OG have a ton of kids out? I just don't see their motivation for moving up. They haven't been a very good nine man team.
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Re: 2015-16 football plan

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:06 am

Flip wrote:Does OG have a ton of kids out? I just don't see their motivation for moving up. They haven't been a very good nine man team.


Didn't have a choice to move up or not...its not like they opt'd up. Roughly 25 athletes out this year...very young team.
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Re: 2015-16 football plan

Postby HammerTime » Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:12 am

I saw a newer version on the NDHSAA website, and it showed Rugby and Harvey in the same region as Lakota and Larimore. Please tell me if that actually makes sense to you. I realize bus routes may be long regardless, but theses new matchups are regions, except for region 3, are insanely distant.
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Re: 2015-16 football plan

Postby Flip » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:17 pm

Run4Fun2009 wrote:
Didn't have a choice to move up or not...its not like they opt'd up. Roughly 25 athletes out this year...very young team.

you're right. they were listed next to northern cass and in my old age I got confused.
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Re: 2015-16 football plan

Postby bulldog_power » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:45 pm

does anyone know if any teams have decided to co-op, opt up, or just do a JV schedule for next year? or
any teams that have expressed displeasure about the way the regions are aligned because of travel or losing rivalries because of switching regions?
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